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Former good article nomineeTamil Nadu was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Image of Srirangam Temple[edit]

"Ranganathaswamy Temple, Srirangam" is the biggest temple in India, located in Tamil Nadu and has more than 800 inscriptions in Different languages (more in Tamil). The temple got the UNESCO Asia Pacific Heritage Award in year 2017. It was also nominated as a UNESCO World Heritage Site, and is in UNESCO's tentative list. Such a great temple finds no image in the article of Tamil Nadu. Please do add an image of this great temple. There are images of 10th century CE temples too but this temple is older (even mentioned in Sangam Literature, Example Silapadikaram (book 11, lines 35–40)), bigger and one of the most visited sites all over India. Sastri676 (talk) 03:59, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Permanent link  Implemented Leoneix (talk) 07:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 December 2023[edit]

Change the Image of Vetuvan koil to Image of Parthasarathy Perumal Temple. Vettuvan Koil is just 8th Century CE but Sri Parthasarathi Perumal Temple, Chennai dates way earlier to 5th Century CE or even older. The Structure finds a mention even in the Brahmanda Puranam, Naalayira Divya Prabandham and many more books. The temple also has inscriptions about the Pallava king, Nandivarman who lived between (718 CE – 796 CE).[1] One of the earliest Alvars Pey Alvar (who lived between 5th and 6th Century)[2] has mentioned this temple, which makes the temple The Oldest structure in Chennai. This Temple has faced several floods, cyclones, Tsunami (Just 400 Metres from the Beach). Several Singers and Philosophers were devoted to this God, Example Ramanujar, Vedanta Desikar, Muthuswamy Dheekshithar Swami Vivekanada, Bharathiyar and many more. This temple deserves a place in the Article Tamil Nadu instead of Vettuvan Koil. Sastri676 (talk) 11:25, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Note: See request below  Spintendo  23:57, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Lalithasai (18 December 2011). "Religious facets of Thirumayilai, Thiruvallikeni". The Hindu. Retrieved 3 April 2012.
  2. ^ Mukherjee (1999). A Dictionary of Indian Literatures: Beginnings-1850 Volume 1 of A Dictionary of Indian Literature, A Dictionary of Indian Literature. Orient Blackswan. p. 15. ISBN 9788125014539.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 December 2023[edit]

Change the Image of Vetuvan koil to Image of Parthasarathy Perumal Temple. Vettuvan Koil is just 8th Century CE but Sri Parthasarathi Perumal Temple, Chennai dates way earlier to 5th Century CE or even older. The Structure finds a mention even in the Brahmanda Puranam, Naalayira Divya Prabandham and many more books. The temple also has inscriptions about the Pallava king, Nandivarman who lived between (718 CE – 796 CE).[1] One of the earliest Alvars Pey Alvar (who lived between 5th and 6th Century)[2] has mentioned this temple, which makes the temple The Oldest structure in Chennai. This Temple has faced several floods, cyclones, Tsunami (Just 400 Metres from the Beach). Several Singers and Philosophers were devoted to this God, Example Ramanujar, Vedanta Desikar, Muthuswamy Dheekshithar Swami Vivekanada, Bharathiyar and many more. This temple deserves a place in the Article Tamil Nadu instead of Vettuvan Koil. Sastri676 (talk) 06:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template.  Spintendo  23:57, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Lalithasai (18 December 2011). "Religious facets of Thirumayilai, Thiruvallikeni". The Hindu. Retrieved 3 April 2012.
  2. ^ Mukherjee (1999). A Dictionary of Indian Literatures: Beginnings-1850 Volume 1 of A Dictionary of Indian Literature, A Dictionary of Indian Literature. Orient Blackswan. p. 15. ISBN 9788125014539.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 December 2023[edit]

The article states the following:

Tamil Nadu is the home of the Tamil people, whose speak Tamil language

This ought to be changed to:

Tamil Nadu is the home of the Tamil people, who speak the Tamil language

which is more grammatically correct. Kuulopuhe (talk) 22:55, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unless this construction is correct in Indian English, the form in which the article is written (and with which I am not familiar). Kuulopuhe (talk) 22:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done  Spintendo  00:01, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We need to add "Dhanushkodi" under the Tourism section, as the place has a significant history, also we record so many tourists visiting the place every year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnanyaBDas (talk • contribs) 13:59, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Magentic Manifestations (talk · contribs) 10:24, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk · contribs) 22:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


The article is quite lengthy, so I will need some time to review it. I hope to have review done within a week. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 22:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking it up. Will wait for the comments. Cheers! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 04:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

This is a really strong article. I enjoyed reading it, learnt a lot from it. In my opinion, it's very close to Good Article status. There are just a few citation issues that need attention. Not surprising, given there's 590 ! It doesn't lack for reliable sources, but I have a few concerns.

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    I did a detailed proofread of the entire article, and have some routine copyedits to suggest (minor grammar, occasional sentence structure issues, etc.). However, that is not part of the GA review process. Once the GA process is done, I will raise those suggestions with you.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
    (1) One concern is that some of the older cites took me to dead links, or inaccessible links. I couldn't check all of the links, but I think it would be a good idea for you to check links that pre-date 2015. That's the period when I started noticing that I was getting the occasional dead link. (2) There were also some cites that I didn't think quite supported the point being made, but I may have just been missing something. (3) I'll list the links I had trouble with, at the end of this review template, and would ask you to take a look at them. (4) I ran a copyvio check on the article and it came back with a "violations unlikely" rating.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    Very broad and comprehensive, but focused on Tamil Nadu.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
    Detailed and descriptive, but not pushing a view point.
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
    Some minor edits from other editors over the past few months, but nothing out of the ordinary.
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    I have a few comments about the wording of some of the captions, but that's not part of the GA review. I will share my thoughts on some copyedits after the GA process is complete.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    I will put a one-week hold on the GA to let you take a look at the cite issues, which I'll outline next. Please let me know if that works for you.

Specific Citation issues I came across (using cite numbers as of this posting); would also suggest checking links that were accessed before 2015

  • 1. "This site can’t be reached. www.censusindia.gov.in refused to connect."

Have given the new link for #1. Added an additional source as well.

  • 2. Link goes to regulation about hiring individuals for linguistic diversity, not to the Official Languages Act.

The reference link goes to the correct page citing the 2010 ordinance which is the update of the OL Act. It states "WHEREAS, the State of Tamil Nadu enacted the Tamil Nadu Official Language Act, 1956 (Tamil Nadu Act XXXIX of 1956) and adopted Tamil as the official language of the State under Article 345 of the Constitution"

  • 99. Eastern Deccan Plateau Moist Forests: "Oops, the page you’re looking for is extinct"

Modified the source

  • 140. This cite is meant to support discussion of two zoos, Arignar Anna Zoological Park and Madras Crocodile Bank Trust, but neither is mentioned in the cite, as far as I can see?

It is quoted in the ENVIS source at the end of the paragraph. Removed the confusing news citation.

  • 160. This cite says it is for the "Indian Councils Act", but the link takes me to the general Britannica article on modern India, which does not mention the Indian Councils Act. I think it should go to a different Britannica article, on the government of British India, which does have a discussion of the Indian Councils Act of 1861, under the heading "Government Organisation": https://www.britannica.com/place/India/Government-of-India-Act-of-1858#ref486263

Corrected the link. This is a citation for the act. The actual increase in seats is quoted in the other citation at the end of the paragraph (ref "SL")

  • 165. "Term of houses" : I get "Access Denied"

Gave a different accessible source

  • 166. "History of Madras High Court" - I get a security warning: "Your connection is not private". When I tried it earlier today, I got an odd warning that my computer clock was running ahead of the website.

This is due an error on the website part (it is stated as such in the browser. No issues, gave an alternate source

  • 167. Same security warning; same odd warning earlier today.

same as above, addressed

  • 258. This cite is to support this statement: "were held on a now vanished continent far to the south of India". However, I could not find any reference to that comment in the text, which is partly available on Google Books. Could you add a specific page number in support?

Have given an additional book and a journal source for support.

  • 262. "Five fold grammar of Tamil" - I got a "page not found" error.

The citation has been archived and archived link is accessible. Added a secondary source as well.

  • 298. This cite is to support the summary about Kootha dance, but I could not find a discussion of Kootha dance in the linked text. Could you add a pinpoint cite?

Have given a book source

  • 316. This link goes to the current issue of Frontline, not to the one with the article from 2013.

Have given the archived link; Two citations support the same.

  • 358, 359, 360, 361. These cites are to support the number of banks in Chennai, but I couldn't find the numbers. Am I missing something?

Source 358 gives the count as well. Quote "Chennai has 400 financial industry businesses headquartered in the city"

  • 439. I couldn't find anything in this cite that supports the foundation date for the Spectator newspaper, nor that it had been the first newspaper owned by an Indian.

Gave alternate source

  • 501. Got a "Sorry! Error 404 - Page Not Found" message.Gave alternate book sources

Hope you find this helpful. Please feel free to ask me any questions you may have. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just remembered one other cite that I was puzzled by: # 159, citing Basu’s Intro to the Constitution of India. It’s cited to 1960, with LexisNexis Butterworths as the publisher. To the best of my recollection, LexisNexis Butterworths resulted from a merger in the early part of the 21st century, so I wonder if the year and the publisher given in the cite don’t line up? And is there an edition number for the cite? (By way of comparison, my copy of Basu is 17th Ed, 1987, with Prentice as the publisher.)
Yes, the corresponding edition is from 2011, corrected it. Gave an alternate book source as well.

Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, I have addressed the citation concerns raised above. I have checked for dead links and archived the links wherever possible to weed out accessibility issues on citations. I have also gone through the citations once again and added missing information if any (page nos., isbn etc.). Let me know if anything else needs to be addressed. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 08:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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