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May 2024[edit]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently making disruptive edits.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 17:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

im not making disruptive edits? MarsVHS (talk) 17:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

they're harrassing me. i've literally done nothing wrong. all i did was publish a draft MarsVHS (talk) 17:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And then repeatedly vandalise the Teahoouse, issued a legal threat and then doubled down on said threat, cast aspersions on people who are trying to explain things to you in good faith, and overall dismissed any valid criticism of your behaviour. Nobody's going to buy the "Everybody is so mean to me" claim when all the receipts from the toxicity point to you, not GrabUp or anyone else who's had the patience of a saint trying to help you. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 17:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

threatening me is not actring in good faith. Getting my perms completely taken away is not acting in good faith. How did i vandalise someething? MarsVHS (talk) 17:40, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How are they trying to help me? They're clearly trying to bully me into submission MarsVHS (talk) 17:40, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you don’t know anything about Wikipedia’s rules, you should ask experienced editors or admins, not start vandalizing and threatening legal action. Now you are indefinitely blocked. If you don’t stop commenting, you might get another block, after which you won’t be able to request an unblock or comment anything here. GrabUp - Talk 17:41, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

when did i vanadlize? MarsVHS (talk) 17:43, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

see, you're trying to bully me into submission MarsVHS (talk) 17:43, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of blocking me, ya'll could've jsut helped me MarsVHS (talk) 17:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They were. The answers they were giving you did not match the answers you already had in mind. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 17:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:SyskeySeven[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Draft:SyskeySeven, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

MarsVHS (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I'm sorry for my actions, i meant no harm. I felt attacked so in retaliation i decided to fight back. I'd really appreciate it if I could be unblocked as i've had this account for only about an hour and i'd really like to continue to be a contributing member to the website as I have alot of experience working with HTML5 and CSS MarsVHS (talk) 18:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

There's no chance you'll be unblocked until you withdraw your legal threat with prejudice and commit to adhering to WP:NLT going forward. You also need to address your inappropriate use of email, your inappropriate promotion (WP:PROMO), your violation of WP:COI), commit to refraining from writing about SyskeySeven, and tell us what you plan to write about instead, if unblocked. You won't be unblocked to write in subject areas covered by your conflict of interest. Essentially, you've been so massively disruptive, you're going to have to work exceptionally hard to convince us you'd be a constructive member of Wikipedia. So far, you've demonstrated the opposite. A successful unblock request will be a very real challenge here. Yamla (talk) 18:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

MarsVHS (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I never threatened legal action, i'm sorry if it was taken that way. My use of email is not inappropriate, as it literally told me to email them about it, emails are connected to the account for a reason. I am not trying to promote my business, i'm simply just trying to make the information about my business publicly available to others online who wish to learn more about my organizations work. My organization specializes in the release of open source software. I'm not trying to be disruptive and i'm really sorry if i disrupted anyone. I've been on this site for about 2 hours now so it's really not great to make an assumption about my actions, im genuinely just here to be a contributing member. I used this site all the time in school for research and i really wanna contribute back to the community who helped me get through school. MarsVHS (talk) 18:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You seem to be saying that you withdraw your legal threat below, but you also said "As i've stated my intentions are not just to edit my company", which suggests you still want to do that. You will need to, for at least the short term, completely abandon efforts to edit about your company and tell us what you will edit about instead. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 08:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You issued a very clear legal threat. There's categorically no possibility your unblock request will be granted while that is outstanding. Withdraw it, unconditionally and with prejudice, and commit to following WP:NLT going forward. That's definitely not sufficient to be unblocked but is a mandatory part of any successful unblock. If you aren't willing to do this, there's no point in you continuing to have talk page access. --Yamla (talk) 18:40, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"i'm simply just trying to make the information about my business publicly available to others online who wish to learn more about my organizations work" This is promotion. You may call it what you like, but this is promotion. --Yamla (talk) 18:41, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I apologizded to him for the threat. Making my companys work publicly available is not promotion. As i've said before all my software is released as open source, i don't make any profit off of what I do, I just do it simply out of the kindness of my heart. I've released several open source software that allows easy access to file transferring and file management. Utorrent and bittorrent, which are 2 similar programs have wikipedia articles, is that promoting? MarsVHS (talk) 18:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If that work isn't reliably sourced, and the company isn't notable according to Wikipedia's definition of those terms, then it doesn't belong on Wikipedia, period. Any attempts to create it are entirely against Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, no matter how much you disagree with that.

Please actually read those links, so you understand what the issues here are. miranda ^:3 19:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend you give up on trying to write about your company here, and if you truly want to contribute to Wikipedia, focus on something else entirely. miranda ^:3 19:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

so to qualify my company to be part of wikipedia i need news coverage? What about all the other things without news coverage on the site. MarsVHS (talk) 20:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Official sources are not allowed when publishing an article? MarsVHS (talk) 20:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Official sources" are, by definition, not independent from the subject matter, so can't be used to measure notability. miranda ^:3 20:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

why do i need a independent source for my article when i'm the independent source? MarsVHS (talk) 20:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You aren't independent, you've stated multiple times that it's your business. Do you understand what that word means? miranda ^:3 20:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

explain what makes my sources unreliable MarsVHS (talk) 20:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post a link to one of your references. miranda ^:3 20:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

they are blocked by wikipedia MarsVHS (talk) 20:46, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then, that should be your first hint. miranda ^:3 20:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

stop instigating things further. As i've said i don't like being surrounded by groups of people. MarsVHS (talk) 20:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying my hardest to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you seem to be intentionally disregarding all my advice. Your company is not notable. It does not belong on Wikipedia. Give up on trying to edit about your company, or just stop editing altogether. These are, realistically, your only two options. miranda ^:3 20:51, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See, this is what i'm talknig about. You guys are pressuring me to stop using the site. MarsVHS (talk) 20:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Telling me my only options are to stop editing isn't giving me the benefit of the doubt. MarsVHS (talk) 20:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not, I'm trying to give you honest advice. If you appeal your ban with a promise to give up on editing about your company, to edit other parts of the site, and to listen when more experienced users give you advice instead of arguing with them, then there's at least a chance that you can be unbanned by an administrator. Otherwise, there is genuinely no chance.

If your only reason you want to edit Wikipedia is to talk about your company, then this simply isn't the website for you. miranda ^:3 20:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So you're saying i can never have my page up? What if i provided sources of people playing my games? MarsVHS (talk) 20:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not trying to argue, i'm just trying to be heard. From my end it feels like none of the moderators want to listen. MarsVHS (talk) 20:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My advice here: Stop. Read WP:NCORP now. At least read the summary of the page (the "In a nutshell" part.)

Until your company meets these requirements, it can never be on Wikipedia. It's as simple as that. miranda ^:3 20:59, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've been sent this several times and have already read through the documentation. MarsVHS (talk) 21:00, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then you should understand why your company's article can't be on the site.

There are millions and millions of other articles you can edit. Your company simply isn't notable enough for an article here. When it is notable enough for an article, someone else will write it. That's just how Wikipedia works. miranda ^:3 21:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't edit anything MarsVHS (talk) 21:08, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You'll have to convince an administrator, via ban appeal, that you can contribute to the site constructively. I'm trying to give you advice to help you do that. miranda ^:3 21:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've already submitted it. I don't understand whym ore and more people keep coming to my page to try and shame me. MarsVHS (talk) 21:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Am I ever gonna get my perms back or is this just wasting time MarsVHS (talk) 21:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to raise your odds, but there's no guarantee. miranda ^:3 21:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i've literally only been on here for 3 hours and just made a small mistake. They could've talked to me about it instead of blocking me. MarsVHS (talk) 21:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People tried to talk to you about it. Scroll up and read through the things you said. You really dug yourself into a deep hole here. I sincerely hope you manage to join the project as a constructive editor. miranda ^:3 21:22, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've read everything. why is no one listening to me. MarsVHS (talk) 21:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not trying to dig myself into a hole. Literally all i did was make a mistake. I said i'm sorry and i've been trying to move on for the past 3 hours. MarsVHS (talk) 21:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

they talked to me about it after they blocked me MarsVHS (talk) 21:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My sources meet these requirements. MarsVHS (talk) 21:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your company is called SyskeySeven, yes? miranda ^:3 21:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've fully read through all provided documentation. My sources meet all requirements. It's a reliable source that has signifcant coverage and falls under WP:NOR MarsVHS (talk) 21:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A quick Google search for "SyskeySeven" returns 9 results, none of which would be appropriate sources. That alone seems to suggest that there is not significant coverage of your company. miranda ^:3 21:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia teahouse has only 10 results on google yet has it's own article. all it's sources are wikipedia. MarsVHS (talk) 21:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Teahouse doesn't have its own article. miranda ^:3 21:16, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It has the project page, which is WP:TEAHOUSE, but there are no articles about the Teahouse. miranda ^:3 21:17, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As i've stated my intentions are not just to edit my company. I also am an avid collector of film and know alot about production. My interests include movies, toy brands, electronics, and archiving. MarsVHS (talk) 21:00, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit about those, not your company. If you do get unbanned, and start editing about your company, you will be banned again. This is the single best piece of advice I can give you. I can't sit here all day and give you twenty different reasons why you can't write about your company.

These are my parting words here. You can listen to me and have a chance, or you can ignore me. It's your choice. Have a good night. miranda ^:3 21:20, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

literally all i want is my perms back and this could've all ended 3 hours ago MarsVHS (talk) 21:22, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But you have made it clear that you intend to continue editing about your company, which is part of the reason *why* you're banned. Give up on editing about your company. You won't be unbanned unless you do. Edit about your other hobbies. Goodnight. miranda ^:3 21:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've already agreed 2 hours ago that i'm not going to edit my page. I'm just trying to understand what sources are valid. MarsVHS (talk) 21:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it appears i'm trying to continue editing my page, you're understanding me wrong. I'm just asking about sources. MarsVHS (talk) 21:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've been on here for only 3 hours and you guys have already spammed me with hundreds of messages over 2 edits. MarsVHS (talk) 20:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's the difference between me and somebody else posting a link to the website? MarsVHS (talk) 20:40, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've provided an unbiased report of the basis of the company, and game produced under the company. MarsVHS (talk) 20:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"I apologizded to him for the threat." This is not enough. Do you unconditionally withdraw the threat of defamation with prejudice? Do you commit to abiding by WP:NLT going forward? You also still don't seem to grasp WP:PROMO. This is my last message here. Either you'll listen to what I and others have told you, over and over and over again, or you won't. --Yamla (talk) 20:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i said yes MarsVHS (talk) 20:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, most people don't know what "with prejudice" means. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 20:32, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

? MarsVHS (talk) 20:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was never trying to cause any disruption. and i never meant my comment as a threat. I've just been tryna get this over with so I can get back to editing. I've been agreeing with you guys the entire time but it seems as though we've had confusion. MarsVHS (talk) 20:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have done all that's been asked, and i'd appreciate it if you consider my unblock. I'm truly sorry for any disruption I have caused and I agree not to make anymore edits on my page. MarsVHS (talk) 21:43, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

MarsVHS (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

"which suggests you still want to do that. You will need to, for at least the short term, completely abandon efforts to edit about your company and tell us what you will edit about instead. I am declining your request." i've literally declared at least 5 times now that i will not make any more edits to my page. See, you guys are refusing to listen to what i'm saying. How many more times do I have to agree with you guys? I've been agreeing with literally everything you guys say. It's like no one is taking the time to read and comprehend what i'm saying, you're just assuming what i'm saying and basing your responses off of suchMarsVHS (talk) 23:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Vandalizing our new user forum and throwing around legal threats in an attempt to bully us are a strong indicator that you're simply too immature to contribute here. You also have some serious problems understanding the core purpose our website and its rules. Until you can explain why you were blocked and how our rules for notability and independent, reliable sources work, I don't really see how you can be unblocked – even if you did convince someone that this outburst was a one-time thing. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.